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	<title>Comments on: Gays Strike Back: Marriage Ban Vote Met with Rallies across California</title>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 05:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good writing, and I enjoyed Kim&#039;s reply as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good writing, and I enjoyed Kim&#8217;s reply as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Kimberly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kimberly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 18:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As keith olbermann said--
Why does this matter to you? What is it to you? In a time of impermanence and fly-by-night relationships, these people over here want the same chance at permanence and happiness that is your option. They don&#039;t want to deny you yours. They don&#039;t want to take anything away from you. They want what you want -- a chance to be a little less alone in the world.

Only now you are saying to them -- no. You can&#039;t have it on these terms. Maybe something similar. If they behave. If they don&#039;t cause too much trouble.  You&#039;ll even give them all the same legal rights -- even as you&#039;re taking away the legal right, which they already had. A world around them, still anchored in love and marriage, and you are saying, no, you can&#039;t marry. What if somebody passed a law that said you couldn&#039;t marry?

I keep hearing this term &quot;re-defining&quot; marriage.

If this country hadn&#039;t re-defined marriage, black people still couldn&#039;t marry white people. Sixteen states had laws on the books which made that illegal... in 1967. 1967.

The parents of the President-Elect of the United States couldn&#039;t have married in nearly one third of the states of the country their son grew up to lead. But it&#039;s worse than that. If this country had not &quot;re-defined&quot; marriage, some black people still couldn&#039;t marry...black people. It is one of the most overlooked and cruelest parts of our sad story of slavery. Marriages were not legally recognized, if the people were slaves. Since slaves were property, they could not legally be husband and wife, or mother and child. Their marriage vows were different: not &quot;Until Death, Do You Part,&quot; but &quot;Until Death or Distance, Do You Part.&quot; Marriages among slaves were not legally recognized.

You know, just like marriages today in California are not legally recognized, if the people are... gay.

Quit pushing religion down America&#039;s throat. That&#039;s one of the only things that is great today about this country--freedom (yes, even of religion)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As keith olbermann said&#8211;<br />
Why does this matter to you? What is it to you? In a time of impermanence and fly-by-night relationships, these people over here want the same chance at permanence and happiness that is your option. They don&#8217;t want to deny you yours. They don&#8217;t want to take anything away from you. They want what you want &#8212; a chance to be a little less alone in the world.</p>
<p>Only now you are saying to them &#8212; no. You can&#8217;t have it on these terms. Maybe something similar. If they behave. If they don&#8217;t cause too much trouble.  You&#8217;ll even give them all the same legal rights &#8212; even as you&#8217;re taking away the legal right, which they already had. A world around them, still anchored in love and marriage, and you are saying, no, you can&#8217;t marry. What if somebody passed a law that said you couldn&#8217;t marry?</p>
<p>I keep hearing this term &#8220;re-defining&#8221; marriage.</p>
<p>If this country hadn&#8217;t re-defined marriage, black people still couldn&#8217;t marry white people. Sixteen states had laws on the books which made that illegal&#8230; in 1967. 1967.</p>
<p>The parents of the President-Elect of the United States couldn&#8217;t have married in nearly one third of the states of the country their son grew up to lead. But it&#8217;s worse than that. If this country had not &#8220;re-defined&#8221; marriage, some black people still couldn&#8217;t marry&#8230;black people. It is one of the most overlooked and cruelest parts of our sad story of slavery. Marriages were not legally recognized, if the people were slaves. Since slaves were property, they could not legally be husband and wife, or mother and child. Their marriage vows were different: not &#8220;Until Death, Do You Part,&#8221; but &#8220;Until Death or Distance, Do You Part.&#8221; Marriages among slaves were not legally recognized.</p>
<p>You know, just like marriages today in California are not legally recognized, if the people are&#8230; gay.</p>
<p>Quit pushing religion down America&#8217;s throat. That&#8217;s one of the only things that is great today about this country&#8211;freedom (yes, even of religion)</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 02:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LONG BEACH -- Opponents of Prop 8 ban on same-sex marriag to gather Saturday in Long Beach as part of a nationwide protest.  10:30 a.m. at City Hall, 333 W. Ocean Blvd.  More info on local rallies and the national movement is available at www.jointheimpact.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LONG BEACH &#8212; Opponents of Prop 8 ban on same-sex marriag to gather Saturday in Long Beach as part of a nationwide protest.  10:30 a.m. at City Hall, 333 W. Ocean Blvd.  More info on local rallies and the national movement is available at <a href="http://www.jointheimpact.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.jointheimpact.com</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Hollywood Today Staff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hollywood Today Staff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 23:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will update nat&#039;l rally date and time when we get it. - ed.</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 20:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will the National Rally be in different cities simultaneously?
I think it&#039;s great that they are having a national rally!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will the National Rally be in different cities simultaneously?<br />
I think it&#8217;s great that they are having a national rally!!</p>
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		<title>By: Lindy LUcas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lindy LUcas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 18:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>National Rally planned November 15</description>
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		<title>By: Hollywood Today Staff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hollywood Today Staff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 11:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes you can -- comments are YOUR forum. But this issue is now going nationwide for rallies on Thursday. And our staff is mostly straight. But if gays want to marry, why care? They deserve the grief as much as we do, lol...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes you can &#8212; comments are YOUR forum. But this issue is now going nationwide for rallies on Thursday. And our staff is mostly straight. But if gays want to marry, why care? They deserve the grief as much as we do, lol&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 07:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can we say, &quot;Biased!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can we say, &#8220;Biased!&#8221;</p>
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